Grandfather Clock Origin

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:21 pm     Post subject: Grandfather Clock Origin

My inlaws just bought a grandfather clock at a second hand store. The clock is beautiful. They are interested in the origin and when it was made. They said the clock was shipped from the King Arthur Clock Company, Fairhope, AL; National Dist. Co, Old Mar, FL. On the inside was:

Gruner Lyrapendel
930225 0002
f.Hermie-Werk/Movement

85 Franz Hermie
No
Made in West Germany
1151-05OH
94cm66.00

Anyone know where I could find out some more information about this clock? Thanks.

Jeff Connors

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:08 pm     Post subject:

Gruner was probably the original seller/retail company.

85 stands for 1985 when the clock was made.

Franz Hermle is the movement and or clockmaker.

1151-050h is the movement model number.

Hermle are still making clocks.

94cm is the length of the pendulum fitted.

66.00 are how many beats per minute is does.

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:32 pm     Post subject:




Thanks very much. Great info.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:58 am     Post subject: Grandfather clock origin

This clock was originally manufactured by the King Arthur Clock Co. They were one of several companies operating out of Alabama several years ago (along with Emperor Clock Co). For all I know they may be out of business now. They were primarily a furniture company manufacturing clock cases in kit form and ready built, among other things. They did not manufacture clock movements. The movements were made by other companies. In this case the movement was manufactured by Hermle. (Franz Hermle & Sons). Gruner was not a retailer. Gruner was a pendulum manufacturer. Hermle is one of only two grandfather clock manufacturers left in the world today. They also maintain supplies of repair parts for all their movements should they ever be required.

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:15 pm     Post subject: Just bought this

I just bought a Franz hermie clock 1985.West Germany.Could anyone tell me how much these run for. I got mine from a friend for 150.00. Its a King Arthur is all they could tell me i got the other info from inside it.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:38 am     Post subject: Re: just bought this

Hermle manufactures many models of clock movements at different price points. Without knowing which model you bought it's hard to say how much it's worth. Also, if the movement was made in 1985 it probably has been used and there could be a little or a lot of wear to it. That would have an effect on how much it is worth.
Finally, if it is a used movement you have to ask yourself why it was up for sale in the first place.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:13 am     Post subject:

1151-050h 94cm/6600 sn1151 franz hermie west germany Thats what is in the inside. So far its beautiful mint condition look wise,and it keeps real good time has three different chimes. Let me know if this helps find out if its a good deal.Thanks for your help

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:35 pm     Post subject: Re: just bought this

The 1151 movement is still listed in the Hermle catalog. Likewise, 1151 replacement parts are also currently available. The catalog price for a new 1151 movement is more than you paid and doesn't include weights, dial or pendulum (they would be extra).
Assuming it's in A-1 condition then you paid a fair price for the movement.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:32 pm     Post subject:

Thanks for all your help. Im very happy with it and feel I got a great deal. Thnaks again.

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:45 pm     Post subject: hermie mantle

i have a hermie mantle clock, inside is the numbers 81 and then under 340-028.
can anyone give me some idea what these numbers mean?

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:15 am     Post subject: Herle mantel clock

Double check your movement markings since I don't see a 340 028.

However a 340 020 Hermle movement is a popular movement found in many mantel clocks offered by a number of manufacturers. It is an 8 day westminster chime balance wheel movement. The '81' is the last two digits of the year of manufacture for your movement (1981). The 340 020 movement is still being made by Hermle today.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:45 am     Post subject:

i have checked again and it is 340-028
hermle on the clock face and 3 wind ups.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:26 pm     Post subject: Hermle mantel clock

The last digit on Hermle 340 series clocks can only be from 0 to 3 and has to do with hand shaft length. with '3' being the longest (53 mm). You may be reading the 3 as an 8. Other than that your model number indicates that you have a westminster chime mantel clock with floating balance mechanism.