Replacement Works

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:00 pm     Post subject: Replacement Works

Need replacemewnt works for 1970's vintage Imperial Clock kit. Clock is chain/weight driven, Westminster chimes, and Moon Phase dial.
Have just ordered the free catalog. Will it show the complete line of mechanical works, including the above specs ?? We have been told that the works for the kits of that era were sometimes not made of the best materials so don't last as long as they might.... We have 2 of them - both as above - One will run the time quite well, but the chimes do not function properly. This is the one we want to work with first.
Any suggestions as to what to look for in the way of works or parts from the experts here would be most appreciated.
Thank you in advance.

bobnrobin

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:05 pm     Post subject:

Sorry !! That should be Emperor clock kit . Sorry, couldn't find a way to edit the original msg.
bobnrobin

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:10 pm     Post subject:

Our catalog will show a complete line of mechanical works, however our website will do so as well. Simply click on the "mechanical movements" link (located on the left of the Klockit website) to view our line. All floor clock movements have a free (downloadable) specification sheet that will describe all the various critical dimensions required for the movement. This sheet is located (on any specific floor clock movement web page) about 3/4 of the way down the page. For example: You may type 13044 in the search box and scroll down the page until you see the Adobe Reader PDF link. Download that link (save it to your desktop) and use Adobe Reader to open the document. Adobe Reader is a free download and a very useful tool to have - (works great for online taxes). As stated previously, we have specification sheets for all floor clock movements posted on the website (unfortunately, we do not have wall or mantle movements posted at this time).

If you should not prefer to download these specifications sheets, you may call Klockit with any movement stock numbers you may be interested in. We can send you copies (via mail) as well.

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:13 pm     Post subject:

Thank you so much, Chris. Will check out the main website again while waiting for the catalog. We have a SEVERAL years old S. Larose catalog, but felt we should have a newer version as reference/source.
Thank you again for taking the time to reply.
bobnrobin

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:18 am     Post subject: Re: Replacement movement

Just for the record. The original Emperor Clock Co was known to use movements from two different manufacturers over the years they were in business. These were Jauch and Urgos. Both of those companies along with Emperor themselves have since gone out of business, although Emperor has had an on again-off again existence since then. Hermle was reported to have bought the assets of the Urgos firm but there has been little or no output currently under the Urgos logo. It is now becoming increasingly more difficult for repair technicians to find replacement parts for either Jauch or Urgos movements.
As well, S LaRose ceased operating as of July 2006. Some portions of their company were bought up by other firms, but have no connection to LaRose, other than they may handle similar merchandise.

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:51 pm     Post subject:

Thank you, Chris, for that information - although, I didn't really want to hear that ! Makes it kind of hard to know what to do !! As of this date, 2-24-07, we have not yet received the catalog, so guess we will have to be very careful when we do get it - as in, measurements, etc.. Do you believe that there are works available in your catalog to make these clocks run again ?
Thanks, again.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:29 am     Post subject: Replacement works

In my previous post I should have added the fact that very late in production Emperor began using Hermle movements in their clocks, probably due to the fact that Jauch and Urgos were no longer available.
I would advise that you look carefully at your clock movement. Manufacturers usually have movement numbers and/or other information stamped into the back plate which often offers a clue to which movement is in the case. From that information a compatible replacement movement could be suggested. You didn't state in your original message which model Emperor clock you have. That information would help too. Emperor usually had a choice of one or two movements that would fit a particular case style. No doubt there is a movement currently available that will fit your clock case.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:53 pm     Post subject:

Hello, again. Question - How long does it normally take to receive the catalog ? I believe I requested it on 2-14-07 and as of today have not received it...
Strangely, since each was "built" by a different individual - both are the Emperor Newport - Model 120-K, with both movements being the 101-M, Westminster Chimes, Moon Phase Dial. We also have the assembly manual which have not examined in years - it probably has some pertinent info in it. Also, the one which was still running time-wise, just all of a sudden last Fri. afternoon started chiming perfectly on the quarters and the hours !! It'd been "resting" I guess, for over 2 years !! Ah well... We've just decided to enjoy it while it lasts... But the other is definitely needing repairs .... so we're still waiting on the catalog.
Thanks again, for all the good info.
P.S.: Where ARE you ? I posted this at 12:53 my time and it came thru' as 6:53 pm!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:42 pm     Post subject:

We are located in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin (CST). Sometimes the post times are weird. In regard to the catalog, it may be that they are waiting to send the most current catalog (which will be shipping sometime this month). This catalog will include new spring products that were not previously featured in the January catalog edition. However, all information you need is available on the website as well (remember those specification sheets I had mentioned previously). We do carry a couple of chain driven movements (#13001, #13045, #13005). If you have question in regard to the specification sheets for these movements, please let us know.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:00 pm     Post subject:

OK, Chris, Thanks a lot. Guess instead of 2-14, my catalog request was on 2-12.... Good, I think we need the latest info we can get !! We have several other OLD clocks with various kinds of movements that we want to check out repairs for - one being an ANCIENT 8 day Regulator, which supposedly hung in some Govt. offices in DC...
Weird is right ! I noticed my first post was about 6 hrs. off also... Strange, as we are on CST also...
Thanks again.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:42 am     Post subject: Replacement works

A quick check of the specs for the Emperor 101M movement (from old catalog literature) shows that it was a chain drive westminster movement with moon dial (manufacturer varied depending on year the kit was bought). See the specs for Klockit's #13001 movement for a suitable match to fit the Newport case for replacement purposes.

Just as an aside, apparently the time used for forum postings is GMT which accounts for the discrepancy from local time.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:14 pm     Post subject:

Happy St. Patrick's !! OK, we received the catalog a day or so ago.... Was hoping for some little packets of miscellaneous parts, like "pins", gears, etc., but not shown... Guess if we may have to go the route of a full replacement works...
Thanks for the info on which specs would probably be best to check.
Ah yes, now that the unnecessary, unwanted, and totally useless DST has taken effect, I guess we'll no longer see GMT... What's wrong with the old fashioned sun dial ??
Thanks again.....

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:02 am     Post subject: Urgos parts

Finally today anybody can help with parts for URGOS 6620 movement ?

Thanks, Br Aleks